Crafty
Mafia Goon
I'm not mafia, I swear
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Post by Crafty on Aug 31, 2016 10:52:20 GMT -5
Okay, so last night I think I may have made a mafia setup. I was pretty tired, so it's not likely any good, but I wanted to share it and ask if it is balanced...like at all.
The way I had it was there were 12 players, 3 of which were mafia.
The townies had several power roles, including a Town Doctor, a town role cop (probably should be just a regular town cop), a one-shot vig, and a psychiatrist-y type role that targets somebody each night. If the target is mafia, they are converted into a vanilla townie. If the target is a townie, the alignment switcher has a %25 (or %50) chance of turning them into a mafia goon.
The problem with this is that if a mafia goon is turned into a townie they know who the other mafia are.
So I came up with something. A Mafia Middle Man, who CANNOT be converted, has a chat with all the other mafia goons. The mafia goons only know who the middle man is. So sure, if they get converted, they know who the middle man is, but that's all they know. And they cannot claim to have been converted or that they know who the mafia middle man is. (I could change the name)
Is that any good? (Is it imbalanced?)
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Crafty
Mafia Goon
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Post by Crafty on Aug 31, 2016 10:52:46 GMT -5
^^ Is it okay to be in this thread?
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Post by Iceman on Aug 31, 2016 10:55:40 GMT -5
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Post by rosey1579 on Aug 31, 2016 10:56:06 GMT -5
Does the Mafia have any power roles there?
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Crafty
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Post by Crafty on Aug 31, 2016 10:58:09 GMT -5
Does the Mafia have any power roles there? Not at the moment.
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Crafty
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Post by Crafty on Aug 31, 2016 11:00:41 GMT -5
Does the Mafia have any power roles there? Not at the moment. A mafia godfather could fit in there.
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Post by Iceman on Aug 31, 2016 11:03:30 GMT -5
The concept sounds interesting. Maybe a little bit of refining. I'm not really an expert on balancing, so you may have to ask the others.
One possible problem is that if the middle man dies, the Mafia essentially devolve into a group of serial killers who don't know if their target is part of their team. Maybe if the middle man dies, one of the Mafiosi replaces him.
Although it is a bit problematic when the middle man gets whacked each time one of his goons gets converted to a townie.
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Crafty
Mafia Goon
I'm not mafia, I swear
Posts: 243
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Post by Crafty on Aug 31, 2016 11:05:57 GMT -5
The concept sounds interesting. Maybe a little bit of refining. I'm not really an expert on balancing, so you may have to ask the others. One possible problem is that if the middle man dies, the Mafia essentially devolve into a group of serial killers who don't know if their target is part of their team. Maybe if the middle man dies, one of the Mafiosi replaces him. Although it is a bit problematic when the middle man gets whacked each time one of his goons gets converted to a townie. Yeah, that makes sense. My original plan was that when the middle man dies, the host would randomize a mafia goon to become the next middle man, like you suggested.
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Post by rosey1579 on Aug 31, 2016 11:11:01 GMT -5
Ja I'm not sure there Crafty. Town seems a bit OP, and whoever the alignment changer would probably not take action, or ask to die if they were forced to. 🍀
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Crafty
Mafia Goon
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Post by Crafty on Aug 31, 2016 11:12:00 GMT -5
Ja I'm not sure there Crafty. Town seems a bit OP, and whoever the alignment changer would probably not take action, or ask to die if they were forced to. 🍀 I can see that. I was tired
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Post by rosey1579 on Aug 31, 2016 11:12:08 GMT -5
Errm... But I shouldn't really be the one giving the advice here. You can wait for a scumbag for more insightful guidance.
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Crafty
Mafia Goon
I'm not mafia, I swear
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Post by Crafty on Aug 31, 2016 11:14:16 GMT -5
Errm... But I shouldn't really be the one giving the advice here. You can wait for a scumbag for more insightful guidance. Okeeeeeeyyyy!
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Post by Iceman on Aug 31, 2016 12:00:29 GMT -5
I suggest reducing the power roles. The Mafia would already have a hard time when a former ally blows their cover.
If the psychiatrist dies, the Mafia should know who their teammates are, since there is no more chance for anyone's alignment to change, and the game turns into a regular Mafia game by that point.
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Post by Kat on Aug 31, 2016 12:26:32 GMT -5
Yeah the mafia tests idea would be the place to get feedback
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Post by Kat on Aug 31, 2016 12:33:03 GMT -5
Awe man I had a whole thing typed up and them moved these posts before I posted and lots my thought.
Good job Katie. Real smart.
Lemme try this again..
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