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Post by Skelda on Jul 25, 2015 13:28:50 GMT -5
Yeah. You're not wrong, I was challenging things.  It doesn't make me scum. NL is usually a bad idea on odds. No whacking and hoping doc protects right seems fairly useless. If doc protects right at some point, there may be reason to NL later, but we shouldn't today. This is the post that bothers me the most in the thread so far. Lissa always reverts to these mechanics discussions when she is scum. That is one of her strongest tells and I really don't think she is aware she does it. And that "you're not wrong" is a strange concession that doesn't feel town-motivated. |
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Post by Skelda on Jul 25, 2015 13:30:29 GMT -5
skelda I have multiple reads that have nothing to do with meta. For instance? Who is scum, Lissa? People aren't acting that Town and the fact that you are reading so many as Town seems like you are just trying to pretend to be confused. |
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Post by Skelda on Jul 25, 2015 13:32:04 GMT -5
1. Emily - 50/50 (could be either maf or town) 2. Lissa - Never trust her, but always very helpful if town, so currently she's 60/40 - this could change later 3. Loppie - Not sure. Null for the moment 4. Nadine - Seems to want to help, but currently tough as not much going on 80/20 5. quickit - No idea, but honestly, seems more townish right now 70/30 6. Skelda - Came on for a bit and talked. Never sure about him. I'd say 50/50 for now. 7. Lo - 100% for town 8. Alleen - Not being crazy at all, so I'm somewhat suspicious. However, it's been a long time since I've played and she's played some since then. 50/50 9. Lala - Not sure. She's too good at being both. Null for the moment Quickit, you and Skelda seem very townish to me. I feel like you three try to help the town most. I am town, too. I would like to help more but first days are always hard for me because at that point I'm always clueless. I'm unsure about Em and Lala, I'm leaning more to town, so. Lissa and Alleen seem a little less townish than the others. But also not too suspicious, we'll see. I like this post of Loppie's. I suppose it could be kind of pandering, but it seems Town for some reason. Even though she does have a lot of Townreads too, I'm not sure. |
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Post by alleen on Jul 25, 2015 13:32:15 GMT -5
And Lissa is never confuse...  |
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Post by Skelda on Jul 25, 2015 13:34:05 GMT -5
I always have a tough time understand why NL is bad. I mean, that's one less person who is most likely town dead. You all may think that sounds weird and even scummy or whatever. I don't care. This is one thing that has always confuzzled me beyond confuzzling. Lala  I'm honestly sick of explaining this. A NL with an odd number of people is one less shot we get to take at Mafia. |
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Post by Lissa on Jul 25, 2015 13:34:44 GMT -5
I didn't think challenging things was scummy. I was challenging things. I'm not scum.
Me saying mechanics stuff is seriously not a tell. It'd have long been stomped out by now, I'm more self-aware than to keep doing that as scum after you've been calling it a scumtell for months, and Lo was the one that brought it up anyway!
I think it is Alleen and maybe Em, or maybe Quickit. Some of his logic doesn't follow, but he says that's normal for him so I'm not sure what to make of it.
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Post by Nadine on Jul 25, 2015 13:36:52 GMT -5
Lissa has been acting strange. I don't lknow whether I want to whack her though. She is an asset to town if she's town.
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Post by Lissa on Jul 25, 2015 13:37:55 GMT -5
Mechanics stuff just looks like a tell because I spent the first few months of this year rolling scum half the time and a lot of them happened to be in setups meriting mechanics talk. And it is really a silly point because I was responding to Lo's question. I wasn't "reverting to mechanics talk".
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Post by Skelda on Jul 25, 2015 13:38:41 GMT -5
I always have a tough time understand why NL is bad. I mean, that's one less person who is most likely town dead. You all may think that sounds weird and even scummy or whatever. I don't care. This is one thing that has always confuzzled me beyond confuzzling. Lala I'm honestly sick of explaining this. A NL with an odd number of people is one less shot we get to take at Mafia. What did you challenge? It seems like you have just been throwing a lot of Townreads too liberally and then saying, "Aww shucks, I guess I'm wrong with some of them.". Other people have been challenging you. |
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Post by Nadine on Jul 25, 2015 13:39:28 GMT -5
Most places it isn't, but going off the way lissa is playing I would never know it. What's your read on nadine? Nadine isn't really doing anything for me at this point. I legit don't know. But she only had one post when you said this, why did you ask about her specifically? Her thing about Lissa being Town brcause hse defended her thing was a little strange to me, but I guess I could see why a Town Nadine would think that. Why is it strange? |
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Post by Skelda on Jul 25, 2015 13:39:35 GMT -5
Mechanics stuff just looks like a tell because I spent the first few months of this year rolling scum half the time and a lot of them happened to be in setups meriting mechanics talk. And it is really a silly point because I was responding to Lo's question. I wasn't "reverting to mechanics talk". Okay fine, whatever. You are still scum though, so... |
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Post by Lissa on Jul 25, 2015 13:41:04 GMT -5
I questioned a lot of quickit's logic.
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Post by Skelda on Jul 25, 2015 13:41:07 GMT -5
Nadine isn't really doing anything for me at this point. I legit don't know. But she only had one post when you said this, why did you ask about her specifically? Her thing about Lissa being Town brcause hse defended her thing was a little strange to me, but I guess I could see why a Town Nadine would think that. Why is it strange? Because I would never Townread someone for Townreading me and I don't think that is a valid reason, but I see why it makes sense to you. |
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Post by Nadine on Jul 25, 2015 13:41:26 GMT -5
I'm honestly sick of explaining this. A NL with an odd number of people is one less shot we get to take at Mafia. What did you challenge? It seems like you have just been throwing a lot of Townreads too liberally and then saying, "Aww shucks, I guess I'm wrong with some of them.". Other people have been challenging you. This is sketchy. It doesn't make sense for her to townread people so quickly when she knows they can't all be town. |
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Post by loppie on Jul 25, 2015 13:42:29 GMT -5
I always have a tough time understand why NL is bad. I mean, that's one less person who is most likely town dead. You all may think that sounds weird and even scummy or whatever. I don't care. This is one thing that has always confuzzled me beyond confuzzling. Lala I'm honestly sick of explaining this. A NL with an odd number of people is one less shot we get to take at Mafia. You mean when we miss the chance to at least try to get one mafia person out its like we help them? |
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It doesn't make me scum.
