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Post by lissa2frozen on Apr 27, 2018 19:21:53 GMT -5
Do you think it's strange for Bella specifically or in general? I've seen wolves make that vote enough times before to the point where I don't think much of it (context matters ofc) on a general level i do think it might be something not as applicable on a general level as it feels like it should be though i'm not incredibly familiar with bella's meta The problem is scumplay is image based, and wolves think that making a suboptimal vote to say 'hey I don't care if I get whacked/I don't care how I look" is more common than you think even if it's unhelpful for them in the short run because people pick up on it as intended and defend people for making those votes/plays. I don't think it works in general, but I think it's perfectly fine to have a character read on it, a read unique to a person. I've only seen two of Bella's posts in the game so I have no opinion, but there's my two cents on the read in general. |
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Post by Lissa on Apr 27, 2018 19:23:32 GMT -5
on a general level i do think it might be something not as applicable on a general level as it feels like it should be though i'm not incredibly familiar with bella's meta The problem is scumplay is image based, and wolves think that making a suboptimal vote to say 'hey I don't care if I get whacked/I don't care how I look" is more common than you think even if it's unhelpful for them in the short run because people pick up on it as intended and defend people for making those votes/plays. I don't think it works in general, but I think it's perfectly fine to have a character read on it, a read unique to a person. I've only seen two of Bella's posts in the game so I have no opinion, but there's my two cents on the read in general. yeah you're right i need to kick that read as a general thing it's just kind of something stuck in my "reflexively apply" book |
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Post by lissa2frozen on Apr 27, 2018 19:23:32 GMT -5
Why do you think she is town? i think how she interacted with keyen is something that looks good for her specifically, the you're sweet -> you're wrong -> would i look sketchy if i voted him also the especially if bella partner -> i need to speak with bella progression there, that particular turn/transition in thought midpost is unintuitive to fake in that particular way i think Fair enough. I liked the would I look sketchy and asking permission posts she made around that time. Do you have a general read list? |
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Post by Zinnia on Apr 27, 2018 19:25:17 GMT -5
I hope everything is OK IRL Zinnia. Sorry if things aren't going well  I'm about to log off for the night, too. It's okay. I'm just tired and a lot of little things are getting on my nerves. I'll try not to be grumpy on the thread. |
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Post by lissa2frozen on Apr 27, 2018 19:26:41 GMT -5
Hi Zinnia, can you share your reads if you don't mind?
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Post by Zinnia on Apr 27, 2018 19:32:12 GMT -5
Hi Zinnia, can you share your reads if you don't mind? Sure. Excuse me if I do not churn out posts, I would like to look back for a bit. |
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Post by lissa2frozen on Apr 27, 2018 19:33:59 GMT -5
Hi Zinnia, can you share your reads if you don't mind? Sure. Excuse me if I do not churn out posts, I would like to look back for a bit. No rush, no worries |
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Post by Lissa on Apr 27, 2018 19:35:11 GMT -5
i think how she interacted with keyen is something that looks good for her specifically, the you're sweet -> you're wrong -> would i look sketchy if i voted him also the especially if bella partner -> i need to speak with bella progression there, that particular turn/transition in thought midpost is unintuitive to fake in that particular way i think Fair enough. I liked the would I look sketchy and asking permission posts she made around that time. Do you have a general read list? lala town keyen probably town think you are town i kinda want to flip around and say rosey isn't town, my metric there is really muddy and i'm annoyed and i want to see if i can jog my memory better i've gone back and forth 3-4 times or so on what i want to type about zinnia bella is ... decently likely to be scum, probably? meh |
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Post by Lissa on Apr 27, 2018 19:51:19 GMT -5
yeah okay
vote: rosey
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Post by lissa2frozen on Apr 27, 2018 19:55:27 GMT -5
Talk to me about rosey and keyen?
Why scum/town?
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Post by Iceman on Apr 27, 2018 19:58:06 GMT -5
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Post by Lissa on Apr 27, 2018 20:04:53 GMT -5
she has a certain distant-ness as both alignments but it's distinctly different, i think as town she says some kinda random stuff but also is clearly thinking about the game, engages with/talks about things of her own volition sometimes as scum it kind of, rings hollow? she kind of prods at things but the way she engages with things is less spontaneous and she doesn't really have the same indicators of thinking about stuff, the stuff she engages with is more arbitrary and it's done in a more hollow kind of distant way. she makes probably a higher % of posts that are somewhat game related, but it's not the same kind of game related posting also this specific type of... telling people to do stuff i associate with her scum game, like the gentle guiding way of suggesting it This might sound crazy, but I'm not going to vote. I feel like voting for someone else just to save my skin is a very scummy move. So I'm not voting. I’d actually prefer you to vote. It doesn’t have to be someone with votes on them. |
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Post by lissa2frozen on Apr 27, 2018 20:08:47 GMT -5
I like that last point, thanks.
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Post by Zinnia on Apr 27, 2018 20:10:47 GMT -5
Rosey: I don't like the short-ish conversation she had with Keyen. It might just be because I did not find anything strange about his posts, but I didn't really like bringing attention to such a minor thing. She doesn't seem to have a lot of posts as of yet, save for that and asking me if I am scared. Bella: Her attitude about getting whacked makes me want to think she is town, scum usually seems more desperate to stay alive. While her vote on Lissa was a bit strange, in my opinion. It wasn't a vote to save herself. But she's very neutral in her posts, something I kind of associate with mafia. I've said this about her recently, but unfortunately I don't know what her alignment there is either. Keyen: I don't know what to think about his random vote on Lala, it didn't seem very serious to me, nor was the "my vote stays" thing particularly scummish, he would not be the first one to have such a random vote. Lala: I feel like I only ever get a read on her late in the game, which is no good  She didn't vote Eyelash, but did say things about him which could've made others, if that makes any sense at all. The one in the ice cube: Seems helpful, unlike this read of him. Well, I've never played with them clearly, but it's not often I played with a stranger who is actually active. I don't know. So in general they seem helpful. Lissa: Seems town, helpful, not as neutral as the one in the ice cube. Even if I don't agree with all of her own reads. I went down the list of living players and looked at their posts. Unfortunately this means I skipped Icey's posts. I will take a look at that... after I eat. |
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Post by lissa2frozen on Apr 27, 2018 20:13:39 GMT -5
Vote: No whackI'm lost tbh This seems a little too on the nose to be wolfy. I also liked her list post expressing frustrations about not being clear in communicating (admittedly that could be a valid scum complaint but it's a starting point), felt natural. I gather keyen is Nicki Minaj? |
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She didn't vote Eyelash, but did say things about him which could've made others, if that makes any sense at all. 
