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Post by Lala on Feb 10, 2018 13:52:27 GMT -5
I still think Choco is more town based on his luck at being scum in past games. I don't see him picking scum. Sam is likely town.
Sam, there just aren't great third party roles in this set up. They are either survivor, jester, whacker (which Katie declined), or serial killer.
Also -- if someone was the third party role that inherits first kill of game, then they inherited Alien. But that's a 1 in 146 chance of happening, so ... doubtful.
The juicy third party roles in this set up are the serial killers. All the serial killers have night-time defenses, too.
Skelda was trying to figure out the kills (I was, too) ...
Let me see what he said about it.
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Post by Lala on Feb 10, 2018 13:54:28 GMT -5
Lala, do you honestly trust Skelda? I would really love to hear more of your thoughts about Katie and Emily, too. I'm in the middle with Skelda. I think I trust you and Choco the most, but not completely. Emily and Katie are up in the air -- and I don't trust Harry, but we don't have to worry about him. Really woke up with bad feeling about Katie.
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Post by choco on Feb 10, 2018 14:00:40 GMT -5
I'm reading back now and I found that Skelda was the first to vote for Lala (P6) and wanted to have her whacked on day 1. (P7)
Lala in return F'ed Skelda for him being around but not commenting on the thread. (P13)
But then on page 14, Skelda changed his vote to Kitty saying it was "Just a feeling". On the same page, he wanted scum to have Lala killed on night one. He also wanted Bella to come back to vote Kitty a Werewolf PGO).
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Post by Sami on Feb 10, 2018 14:04:34 GMT -5
Sam, there just aren't great third party roles in this set up. They are either survivor, jester, whacker (which Katie declined), or serial killer. When I say third-party, I mean not mafia. Werewolf, alien and goo are not third party? They are like mafia factions? I don't know the proper lingo. I thought Black Goo was third party. There are 146 roles in the Greater Idea Mafia list. One hundred and forty-six. When I asked if the host runs all those roles into the randomizer, you told me yes. Now, some of those roles are repeats, but that's still an incredible amount of diversity. Why don't you want to talk about goo? xD
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Post by Sami on Feb 10, 2018 14:07:00 GMT -5
Really woke up with bad feeling about Katie. If your feeling is right, then I think she is SK, but I have questions that cannot be answered right now.
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Post by Lala on Feb 10, 2018 14:08:23 GMT -5
I was not Lala. I was not online. I read the flip and Day 2 results at the same time. I am not scum and I seriously think claiming might be smart, with the role I have a claim now is more convincing before I'm widely suspected. And Rosey died because of Kitty, that seems almost certain. He's pretty sure that Rosey died from the PGO. That would mean that Kitty killed Lizzy and Lizzy killed Rosey? Or Lizzy killed Kitty, too. But the SKs have defenses like 2 shot BP and werewolf proof and mafia proof. If Kitty or Lizzy targeted the particular proof SK, then there wouldn't have been a death from that person. Like if Seedy Bill is Mafia proof SK, then Lizzy could not have killed him, but Kitty could have killed him. What happens if werewolf proof SK tried to kill Kitty? Would werewolf proof serial killer be immune from her PGO? I think we have a SK...Skelda said he was pretty sure there wasn't one in the game. Maybe he is the SK? But would he take the risk of fake claiming? I kind of don't think he would.
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Post by Lala on Feb 10, 2018 14:10:05 GMT -5
Sam, there just aren't great third party roles in this set up. They are either survivor, jester, whacker (which Katie declined), or serial killer. When I say third-party, I mean not mafia. Werewolf, alien and goo are not third party? They are like mafia factions? I don't know the proper lingo. I thought Black Goo was third party. There are 146 roles in the Greater Idea Mafia list. One hundred and forty-six. When I asked if the host runs all those roles into the randomizer, you told me yes. Now, some of those roles are repeats, but that's still an incredible amount of diversity. Why don't you want to talk about goo? xD I always consider them scum. But I've been corrected by others. If they are anti-town, to me they are scum. I think technically werewolves and mafia are scum, and aliens, SKs, and goo are third party? I don't think there's goo in the game. There might be, though. Let me read up on goo people in Greater.
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Post by Lala on Feb 10, 2018 14:14:27 GMT -5
There's one chance of black goo in the game. Then there's one shot goo maker. So if that one's in the game, goo didn't become active until last night.
I don't think anyone would have taken goo maker.
Black goo has to be visited in order to create more goo.
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Post by Sami on Feb 10, 2018 14:17:26 GMT -5
So, if there is an SK, we need to whack that person, unless they plan to work with town.
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Post by Sami on Feb 10, 2018 14:19:10 GMT -5
*Black goo has to be visited in order to create more goo. *
Maybe Harry visited someone and became goo, so he decided he didn't want to play, lol.
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Post by Skelda on Feb 10, 2018 14:22:16 GMT -5
I personally doubt that there's a SK, it isn't impossible but the number of kills don't quite match.
I haven't fully read, I will in a bit.
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Post by choco on Feb 10, 2018 14:24:57 GMT -5
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Post by choco on Feb 10, 2018 14:27:26 GMT -5
An-hour night is still not long enough.
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Post by Sami on Feb 10, 2018 14:27:50 GMT -5
I mean to unvote earlier and forgot.
UNVOTE: EMILY
I'm slightly less convinced that she's SK and now think it could be someone else like Katie or Skelda. However, if Katie were the SK, I don't know that she would be so obvious about the whole night being too short thing. I'm also still leaning toward Skelda being Bella's alien partner. I'm really not convinced by his middle-of-the-game attempt at town cred sans pressure to supposedly avoid potential pressure later down the road.
On the other hand, I can't shake the belief that Emily chose a non-town role over that discard. Whatever she is, that's mainly why I had that vote on her.
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Post by Sami on Feb 10, 2018 14:29:16 GMT -5
I personally doubt that there's a SK, it isn't impossible but the number of kills don't quite match. Don't forget the possibility that the SK was unable to get their request in before the short night ended. Or possibly, the SK is a two-shot and decided to hold off the first night.
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