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Post by Caro on Sept 8, 2017 7:46:05 GMT -5
Well SKs can still kill mafia which would be nice!
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Post by Lala on Sept 8, 2017 7:46:42 GMT -5
Can Proisoner please be added as a role in some game? It is great. I'm not surprised at Lala not choosing that scum role, I do know she prefers 3rd party or town. But of course she could've gotten scum/scum. How good of a role is a poisoner, in your opinions? Untraceable should mean that a watcher or tracker could not track them, yes? It's not a great role lol. I think it's a good role if you want to be mafia. You can kill an extra person and not be watched/tracked. Why do you think it's not good?
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Post by nicki on Sept 8, 2017 7:47:10 GMT -5
I would not choose 1 shot strongman, either ... who else had it besides Caro? I think that role is b o r i n g. I liked Lizzy's list, too. That role could be boring, but it's powerful and more beneficial to scum.
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Post by Lala on Sept 8, 2017 7:48:17 GMT -5
Lala said she's "not scum" earlier. Which in all likelihood means she's third this game. So unless she's a harmful third party, we can probably leave her alone for now. Scum doesn't necessarily means mafia. Scum can be Mafia, Third Party, or Werewolves. 1) Scum is Mafia or Aliens 2) Third Party could be scum or not scum 3) Werewolves are misunderstood -- not scum
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Post by nicki on Sept 8, 2017 7:49:20 GMT -5
I was expecting way more mafia discards tbh. Because usually when people are offered either town or mafia they tend to pick town. Well there are some exceptions of course and people who pick the role that's more fun regardless of alignment. But I wonder if in this case a lot of players picked scum over town? Or third over town? Do we know if there is only mafia or could there be also another faction? Werewolves, aliens? And those goos loool
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Post by Lala on Sept 8, 2017 7:49:58 GMT -5
I would not choose 1 shot strongman, either ... who else had it besides Caro? I think that role is b o r i n g. I liked Lizzy's list, too. That role could be boring, but it's powerful and more beneficial to scum. See, I disagree. I think strongman is not necessarily powerful -- I think poisoner is more powerful. Strongman is only beneficial if you happen to target someone protected or if you are blocked -- the likelihood of that happening when you use your strongman power is slim to none -- it's like a wasted shot. B O R I N G and with very little impact.
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Post by nicki on Sept 8, 2017 7:50:49 GMT -5
One thing I am curious about is Katie's role. A JOAT is kinda a very strong role as it has the power to do a lot of things as it can heal, kill, and investigate. I am slightly unsure if there could be a stronger role than that unless that JOAT has some very weak roles causing her to go for the other role. I also do have a problem with Katie's discarded roles.
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Post by nicki on Sept 8, 2017 7:52:53 GMT -5
Has anyone figured out the gold-taker? I want that role explained. That person marries another player, then that player gets killed the next day, and the gold-taker gets whatever powers that player previously had This, my friends, is a real life story.
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Post by nicki on Sept 8, 2017 7:53:23 GMT -5
Very tragic that, indeed.
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Post by nicki on Sept 8, 2017 7:55:39 GMT -5
It's not a great role lol. I think it's a good role if you want to be mafia. You can kill an extra person and not be watched/tracked. Why do you think it's not good? The untraceable thing makes the role great, but I don't think the Mafia Poisoner is that really great.
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Post by nicki on Sept 8, 2017 8:00:42 GMT -5
That role could be boring, but it's powerful and more beneficial to scum. See, I disagree. I think strongman is not necessarily powerful -- I think poisoner is more powerful. Strongman is only beneficial if you happen to target someone protected or if you are blocked -- the likelihood of that happening when you use your strongman power is slim to none -- it's like a wasted shot. B O R I N G and with very little impact. If suppose a setup has Mafia 1-shot Strongman, a Cop, and a Doctor. A cop roleclaimed, the doctor (who didn't roleclaim) is surely going to protect the cop for the rest of the game if suppose the doctor isn't killed/whacked by then, then the only option mafia has is to kill the cop with a strongman power. If suppose a setup has Mafia 1-shot Strongman, and a Roleblocker. A roleblocker blocked a mafia, and the mafia coincidentally also used his 1-shot strongman, and someone was killed that night, then the roleblocker will think that this player who is a mafia isn't a scum because a kill was made. It's not boring if you use it wisely.
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Post by nicki on Sept 8, 2017 8:01:39 GMT -5
It's not boring if you use it wisely. GET THIS
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Post by nicki on Sept 8, 2017 8:02:38 GMT -5
Vote: Katie
Serious vote. I'd like her to explain why she discarded a town JOAT role. Sub can also explain why she discarded a 2-shot vig too.
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Post by Lala on Sept 8, 2017 8:03:16 GMT -5
See, I disagree. I think strongman is not necessarily powerful -- I think poisoner is more powerful. Strongman is only beneficial if you happen to target someone protected or if you are blocked -- the likelihood of that happening when you use your strongman power is slim to none -- it's like a wasted shot. B O R I N G and with very little impact. If suppose a setup has Mafia 1-shot Strongman, a Cop, and a Doctor. A cop roleclaimed, the doctor (who didn't roleclaim) is surely going to protect the cop for the rest of the game if suppose the doctor isn't killed/whacked by then, then the only option mafia has is to kill the cop with a strongman power. If suppose a setup has Mafia 1-shot Strongman, and a Roleblocker. A roleblocker blocked a mafia, and the mafia coincidentally also used his 1-shot strongman, and someone was killed that night, then the roleblocker will think that this player who is a mafia isn't a scum because a kill was made. It's not boring if you use it wisely. That is literally the ONLY case in which it would be good. And the chances of it happening as you said are Slim to None.
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Post by Lala on Sept 8, 2017 8:04:15 GMT -5
Vote: KatieSerious vote. I'd like her to explain why she discarded a town JOAT role. Sub can also explain why she discarded a 2-shot vig too. I'll answer: 1) Katie got offered SK or Mason-type role 2) Sub got offered a scum role and wanted to be mafia Mark my words: This is correct.
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